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Sep. 13th, 2014 11:55 pm
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(Live-blog with a bit of added stuff from re-watching)

Well I think it is BAD FORM to keep mentioning killing to a soldier. What the hell. You know I know some former military folks, some I'm preeeetty sure had to actually shoot people. You know what I don't do? BRING IT UP. JFC.

LOL hide in the bedroom in case you brought him home. OTOH I have no idea what the hell he said after that. [unintelligible sentence 1 that may be a question] [unintelligible sentence beginning] "all go wrong? Or is this good by your standards?" ETA: Okay, it's "A bit early, aren't you? Did it all go wrong?"

Ah, this is such a Moffat episode, I don't know if I can take it.

Also why do I love so much the way the Doctor says, "Remember, you are flying a Time Machine!"

Are they in Danny Pink's childhood perhaps? Ah yes, yes it is. Children's home in the 90s. Also LOL at the "You've probably forgotten! Little tiny human brains, have you seen them? They're hilarious!" And when she's like, "Isn't it bad if I meet myself." "It is, potentially, catastrophic." Ha!

LOL Doctor, stealing the guy's coffee.

Another bit of dialogue I couldn't catch: "He's not in every book!" "Really? [something likely sarcastic but I have no idea]" ETA as per [livejournal.com profile] lyssie it's "Really? Well that's a few years of my life I'll be needing back." HA!

Once upon a time... Done. Ha, that is quite the bedside manner.

(So far, eh, this one... I don't particularly care for it. It's like, Moffat went through the playbook and switched a few things round. Instead of "Don't Blink!" now you've got "Don't Look!" And I'm not really getting a feel for Twelve much either. ETA from later on: but it gets better)

Ooops, Rupert Pink, why would she bring that up!!!! I hate when writers make people intentionally stupid to generate conflict. This seems to be a habit so far. And... surprise spaceman!

"Is he a relative from the distant future?" "H-how would I know?" I really loved her delivery on that. :D

Um, if it's the end of the universe, why is there night and day?

"Did we come to the end of the universe because of a nursery rhyme?"

Does Orson Pink have magnetic boots?

Also, just that bit where the unconscious Doctor reacts to Clara's interfacing with the temporal circuits... *shudders*

Oh, of course it's Theta Sigma in the bed. After looking into the schism I suppose? Why... would the others not notice the TARDIS? I guess because of the perception filter?

Aw, Clara saves the Doctor and appears in his timeline again, once more the Impossible girl.

Okay, so the second half of this episode took a right turn and was better than the first. But the thing under the bed is a macguffin? What was it??? Kid in a bedspread I suppose. I did like the idea of fear as a constant companion. And I am really loving Clara a lot this season. She is brave and smart and kind; she gets the parts with the kids that Matt Smith's Doctor would have had.

Date: 2014-09-14 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com
[unintelligible sentence 1 that may be a question] [unintelligible sentence beginning] "all go wrong? Or is this good by your standards?"
I think he said something about her being home before he expected, and that's why he was asking if something was wrong, or if that was good by her standards.

Um, if it's the end of the universe, why is there night and day?
What I can't figure out is how he justified to Orson Pink that they had to go back after he managed to get as far as picking up Clara. Surely even if the TARDIS needs recharging, the end of the universe is a bit out of the way?

Date: 2014-09-14 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eve11.livejournal.com
Ah, I'll listen again. (Ha, just realized, the title: LISTEN, because we talk fast and with mushy accents!)

Well it's not like he had a choice in the matter, eh? The Doctor didn't really need to convince him; he just needed to set the co-ordinates and go.

Date: 2014-09-14 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com
Ha, just realized, the title: LISTEN, because we talk fast and with mushy accents!
This should be the title of EVERY episode. :P

Date: 2014-09-14 04:28 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com
The Wally comment was: "Really? Well that's a few years of my life I'll be needing back."

I don't know if it's the lateness or just that I have my own nightmares about things under the bed but THANK YOU, MOFF, FOR MAKING THEM SCARIER.

Although it is now apparently canon that Clara is the thing under your bed in your dreams. I suppose it can't be all bad.

Date: 2014-09-14 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eve11.livejournal.com
"Really? Well that's a few years of my life I'll be needing back."

OMG LOL. I am really going to have to start watching with subtitles.

I could deal with Clara being the thing under the bed in my dreams, surely. :)

Date: 2014-09-14 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dbskyler.livejournal.com
would the others not notice the TARDIS?

Yeah, that seemed very odd to me. Plus, what happened to Gallifrey's transduction barrier? Remember all those alarms that went off and guards that showed up every time the Doctor went home in Classic Who? Why was this time different?

Also, isn't Gallifrey itself still Timelocked / off in another universe or something? How can they travel to its past?

I know, I know, I'm overthinking this, aren't I . . .

Date: 2014-09-14 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eve11.livejournal.com
How can they travel to its past?

Some folks are saying this might be part of a larger arc involving the equations the Doctor keeps writing. And they did just also land at the end of the universe too because "some idiot turned the safegaurds off."

As for the barrier, maybe it's the difference between landing out with the commoners and landing in the Citidel? Or maybe the transduction barrier didn't go up until after... likely there were a few centuries at least in between that scene with him as a little boy and the next time he landed on Gallifrey after stealing the TARDIS.

(Incidentally, this episode continues the theme of juxtapositions of the clearly older and more distant Doctor being more child-like and vulnerable than his predecessors.)

Date: 2014-09-14 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com
I think that was the Citidel mostly. And only after the uprising (that I suspect the Doctor started *chuckles*).

Technically, you can't travel to the past. Especially not Gallifrey's. But then, you can't travel to the end of time, either. And I suspect we were traveling Clara's timelines (in a way) because SHE was in Gallifrey in the past. And her being fused with the TARDIS may have caused a transdimensional hiccup (as it were).

Date: 2014-09-19 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com
Also, isn't Gallifrey itself still Timelocked / off in another universe or something? How can they travel to its past?
Read my mind! (Sorry, stranger bumping into your convo ;P)

Date: 2014-09-14 02:25 pm (UTC)
liadtbunny: (DW War & Clara)
From: [personal profile] liadtbunny
I really liked the fear is your companion bit too - I was convinced I'd heard it somewhere before, maybe because it sounds like Death is my neighbour? [edit: now I know where I heard it before -doh!]

Yeah, what was under the blanket? Also I have stuff under the bed - no Clara for me;p
Edited Date: 2014-09-14 02:34 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-09-14 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eve11.livejournal.com
I heard it in a snarky William Shatner song ("Has Been").

As for fear being a superpower, it is a good tale to tell, I think. Everyone is afraid at some point, but if you can harness it and use it, it becomes bravery and courage. But it's also not so simple as that, and I don't want to say for example, that people who don't stand up to their fears are somehow blamed for their situation. One thing that the episode does say is that there's no such thing as illegitimate fear: it's okay to be afraid.

[Edit: where did you hear it before?]
Edited Date: 2014-09-14 02:40 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-09-14 03:07 pm (UTC)
liadtbunny: (DW One Barbara & Ian just)
From: [personal profile] liadtbunny
It's a First Dr quote apparently!

Yes, fear is a complex thing.

Date: 2014-09-14 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com
Ohhh, I loved that he reacted when she touched the circuits...shows there really is a connection there. Kinda shivered.

Loved the ending. Made perfect sense and tied into everything we know of her. Saving him before he even started. That was...rather perfect!

*HUGS*

Date: 2014-09-19 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com
GOODNESS, I was so angry at Clara's insensitive remarks about Danny's experience as a soldier. That felt so un-Clara, and so horribly wrong.

Ah, this is such a Moffat episode, I don't know if I can take it.
Oh god, you and me both ♥♥♥

LOL Doctor, stealing the guy's coffee.
Yes, I cracked up.

So far, eh, this one... I don't particularly care for it. It's like, Moffat went through the playbook and switched a few things round. Instead of "Don't Blink!" now you've got "Don't Look!"
I feel so two-minded about it, because it had a lot of potential for greatness, but so many things feel done to death. We've seen corner-of-your-eye creepy already, come on. Messy jumping all over timelines? Alternate selves? Done. Adorkable boyfriend I want to squish to death? Done too.

I'm not really getting a feel for Twelve much either.
That I did enjoy, however. Capaldi made a lot of the episode for me. (And the Twelve + Clara dynamic.)

I liked the second part better too… Two-minded about the Theta Sigma flashback, two-minded happened a lot during that ep, but besides the ending was really quite beautiful.

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