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Do you like Doctor Who fan fiction? Do you like telling folks about the awesome stories you find? Do you frequent A Teaspoon and an Open Mind and make liberal use of their bookmarks and favorites buttons? Well, [livejournal.com profile] calufrax is looking for folks who would like to sign up for a week to spotlight four to seven of their favorite fics housed on the archive. Go here to read more and sign up!. Ad if you're not familiar with Teaspoon, the [livejournal.com profile] calufrax Tag List is a great place to start finding gems. [livejournal.com profile] calufrax recc-ers make an effort to highlight stories across all genres and eras from the show.


Don't believe me?

There are 1854 tags in [livejournal.com profile] calufrax with a label of "doctor:1" through "doctor:11". Also, on the Teaspoon main site there are 29403 stories labeled in the eras "First Doctor" through "Eleventh Doctor". Here is the data by era:

   era archive.tag pct.archive rec.tag pct.rec pct.era.rec rec.exp unif.exp
     1         521       0.018      93   0.050       0.179      33      169
     2         490       0.017      83   0.045       0.169      31      169
     3         641       0.022     127   0.069       0.198      40      169
     4        1027       0.035     140   0.076       0.136      65      169
     5        1045       0.036     116   0.063       0.111      66      169
     6         426       0.014      94   0.051       0.221      27      169
     7         625       0.021     121   0.065       0.194      39      169
     8         894       0.030     157   0.085       0.176      56      169
     9        4568       0.155     224   0.121       0.049     288      169
    10       16784       0.571     550   0.297       0.033    1058      169
    11        2382       0.081     149   0.080       0.063     150      169


Columns are the count and percentages of tags in the archive, the count and percentages of tags in the recs, the proportion of stories in each era that were recced*, and two different expected numbers of tags for the recs in [livejournal.com profile] calufrax, based on a simple random sampling of the archive (rec.exp), and an "ideal" recs comm where each era is equally represented and thus recs are uniformly distributed across eras (unif.exp).

Now, a completely fair and stratified reccs community might aim for equal representation among all eras in the recs. That's an ideal but is not quite fair when the archive itself is not fully balanced. But some trends are evident. Eras 9 and 10 make up 72.6% of the comm but only 41.8% of the recs. You can see that in the observed frequencies of recs tags, the earlier eras, while not achieving perfect balance, are certainly over-represented relative to their frequency in the archive, borrowing from the New Who eras of Nine and Ten which, while highly represented in the archive, are at least more balanced in the recs. I also made a picture.

dwplot

Chisquare tests of the observed frequencies against null hypothesis of balanced according to archive frequency and balanced according to uniform frequency both resulted in p-values of 0 (eg, X^2 values of over 1000 on 10 degrees of freedom in both cases. resounding rejection of null). This corroborates what is obvious in the graph. Not so obvious is that even taking out the outliers of eras Nine and Ten, the resulting chisquare test of uniformity across the remaining eras still results in a rejection (X^2 = 45 on 8 df, p = 3x10^[-7] ). I think that this may be because people are forgetting the awesomness of Two and substituting in the more recent awesomeness of Eleven**, and because people remember that Eight is very pretty.

It is also kind of cool how there is a little bump in the archive for 4 and 5 that is reflected somewhat in the recs pattern as well. I think at least just from an exploratory look at the data, that Three's contingent of recc-ers is quite good at getting him noticed. Also he has the added bonus of covering UNIT as well. I can also conclude that Six's era seems to have a very large footprint, with the highest percentage of stories recc-ed in the category. This means that Six writers are awesome.***

[*Astute readers will point out that stories may have multiple tags. I agree, but I believe it is true for both the archive and the recs site. There may be a "Multi-era" effect here, but there are only ~2900 tags in Multi-Era which is only 10% of the data set, so let's assume for now that multi-era distribution of Eras is comparable to the straight tags (actually I would think it would generally up the count across all Doctors being that multi-way would be chosen when you have lots of different eras in a single story, so imagine that the red line may not quite be as severe as it is depicted on the chart).]

[** I am likely guilty of this and must rectify it in later stints.]

[*** Full disclosure in the interests of Science, I write Six from time to time, thus I am also awesome]



Yes, okay then. Should you feel inclined, go sign up to rec on [livejournal.com profile] calufrax!

Date: 2012-11-13 11:32 pm (UTC)
nonelvis: (DW science geeks)
From: [personal profile] nonelvis
This is MAGNIFICENT, and so are you ♥

Date: 2012-11-14 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com
This is super cool. I also like all the little meta DW comments. :P

Date: 2012-11-14 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com
Would that be eyeballing it? :P

Date: 2012-11-14 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com
But of course only an officially trained statistician can be trusted with something as important and complex as measuring data with your eyes, right? I am sure if I put my eyeballs too close to your dataset, all manner of anomalous things would suddenly happen. In fact, I should probably avert my gaze from the raw data right away and only look at the graph just to be safe. ;)

Date: 2012-11-14 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com
I was just kidding, I am sure your eyeballing worked great. But the graph is always the fun bit! Or, ooh, the manipulatable thingy, if you have one of those. I love those things.

I am beginning to think I forgot most of what I learned in math stats. Like, I don't even really know what "exploratory data analysis" means. Although to be fair, I think chi-squares and all that would have been the next course in the prob/stats sequence, and I took the more generic intro stats like, two years ago and so it's kind of mindwiped. :/

Date: 2012-11-14 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymercury-10.livejournal.com
Ah, okay, that makes more sense. :)

Date: 2012-11-14 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com
I adore you, lol!! Have you signed up again? I'm toying with the idea, but I'm thinking they may come to hate my face around there, lol!!

Date: 2012-11-14 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com
Arrrghhh...recently finished one myself. But I was a sucker and signed up again anyhow, lol!! Got a January assignment. Not too shabby!

LOL. Well my recs are...hmmmm...sorry. Got distracted by your icon, lol!

GUH.

*SQUISHES YOU*

Have another Eight icon

Date: 2012-11-14 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com
The Truth, m'dear...you speak it. Then place it in a graph, which is not only awesome, but visually appealing.

*Grins*

Date: 2012-11-14 08:50 am (UTC)
ext_23799: (smith is a nerd)
From: [identity profile] aralias.livejournal.com
i do not exactly understand what is going on.. but i like it :)

also, i signed up to rec before i saw this post.

Date: 2012-11-14 01:06 pm (UTC)
ext_23799: (six on white)
From: [identity profile] aralias.livejournal.com
that's what i thought it said. but just checking.

as a side note - i wonder whether six is recced more because people who write six tend to be good writers (i think this is so, actually - which is not a totally unbiased statement as a writer of six talking to a writer of six), people like/are encouraged to rec a variety of eras, people like/are encouraged to rec gen or a variety of pairings, and six fics are more likely to be gen than any one form of pairing, or that classic who people are more likely to sign up to calufrax (or to repeatedly sign up to calufrax).

Date: 2012-11-14 01:08 pm (UTC)
ext_23799: (eight does count)
From: [identity profile] aralias.livejournal.com
also - i forgot to say this last time - i'm frankly astonished eight is doing so well. you'd think i would have noticed.

Date: 2012-11-14 01:48 pm (UTC)
ext_23799: (five says it isn't cricket)
From: [identity profile] aralias.livejournal.com
intriguing! another conclusion i would not have guessed at.

but looking at my own recs...

eight: 5
six: 3
another era: 3
three: 2 (and a brig/liz)
ten: 2
eleven: 2
four: 2 (but one isn't tagged!)
five: 1
two: 1
ten: 1
seven: 1

one->ten: 1

and five's one of my favourites. and the only fic i recced of his was one about his celery and not really about him. well, am i reccing in two week's time or aren't i?

Date: 2012-11-14 02:28 pm (UTC)
ext_23799: (delgado!master come with me)
From: [identity profile] aralias.livejournal.com
and i have two entries for ten... never mind.

i agree with your conclusions about five, though! and i guess, apart from fitz, there's not really anyone obvious to pair eight with, and there has never been much EDA fic at all. but then why does he have so much fic that is worth reccing???

if you want to follow this through, you could also say whether time written effected the kind of fic written - but it would be very difficult, as all of mine say they were written in 2011-ish, and they weren't...

Date: 2012-11-14 01:37 pm (UTC)
ext_23799: (annie is writing)
From: [identity profile] aralias.livejournal.com
i certainly find that listening to audios helps me write what i think is a good character voice for the doctor. though i don't know whether this is so for everyone. i think it is possible. also, six is kind of defined, to an extent, certainly in fic-writing fandom, by his audio work, whereas the other big finish doctors are not, or to a much lesser degree (even eight who has hardly any TV canon has all those books).

i do think audios are better for character voice than tv episodes, definitely. fewer distractions.

books is a bit trickier, as i felt it was easier to get a voice right (or just imagined i did) while i was in books-only fandoms, like harry potter and tamora pierce than i now do in doctor who, my only tv fandom.

but it doesn't follow that reading the doctor who books will work the same way as books-only... books.

the fact that doctor who is primarily a tv fandom means that the books will always be a slightly paler imitation of an actual person speaking (audios, obviously, are not).

so they're never an entirely accurate representation of how that character, as played by (for example) patrick troughton would talk. except targets, i suppose. but even then if you don't remember exactly how patrick troughton said a thing then it might be more difficult to accurately replicate how he'd say something else similarly.

as for the original stories books - talking strictly about the new series here, as it gets complicated with seven and particularly eight -i haven't found the writer's takes on the doctor's voice to be very consistent, even when they're an otherwise good writer. like - listening to david tennant read the... one about the pirates (resurrection casket?) made me think - you haven't done a very good job of this, justin richards, because it doesn't sound like the doctor even when the doctor is actually reading this aloud.

thoughts. i have them.

Date: 2012-11-14 09:35 am (UTC)
thisbluespirit: (dw - Six & Peri)
From: [personal profile] thisbluespirit
Heh. This is amazing. I don't understand much of it, but I do get the bit where Six fanfic writers are awesome (and so is Six) and I totally agree. Six pwns Calufrax?

Also that [livejournal.com profile] calufrax could do with more reccers!

Poor Two!

Date: 2012-11-14 01:33 pm (UTC)
thisbluespirit: (dw - Two)
From: [personal profile] thisbluespirit
Yes, you completely need to write more Six, because he is awesome and his coat is the brightest and the best and puts all other Doctors in the shade.

The ficathon idea sounds very cool.

As does making everyone write more Second Doctor fic! I haven't written enough myself. There are some good writers out there for him, but he does get neglected - I was looking for one for him a couple of days ago for this week (think I've found one now) and noticed how many are actually multi-era fics, or the same authors. (Other classic Doctors have similar problems too.) And Ben and Polly. Everyone should write more Ben and Polly. :-)

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