Here from Who_Daily. I think this is the most coherent and believable spec I've seen yet. I tend to agree with most of what you've said. I also like that everything you describe could, essentially, take place in ten minutes of show time, thus leaving the rest of the episode for things like revisiting Amy in the forest and fixing the whole universe. In other words, you could be totally right about the Doctor sitting in the Pandorica for thousands of years, Amelia visits the museum and lets him out and all--and I'm still almost totally in the dark for the rest of the episode. That would be nice.
On the other hand, the whole museum there could be some kind of MindScape of the Doctor. That would bum me out; I want it to be real. I am of two opinions on this. On the one hand, dream/mindscape type things are generally lame cop-outs. On the other hand, the entirety of Amy's Choice was a mindscape of the Doctor, and that's my favorite episode of the series. I think it all hinges on how well it's done and whether it gives genuine insight and growth into characters or is just an easy out for the writer.
There is some kind of way that being trapped in the box for thousands of years doesn't make the Doctor wither and die. I would assume it's some kind of stasis chamber. I mean, keeping your captive in suspended animation and thus unable to think is a pretty good way to keep them from getting out.
This is where it's useful to think in five dimensions instead of the usual four. I believe, to understand how "every moment" could blow up and there is still some sort of "time" through which you can escape, you have to think of each moment having its own trajectory as embedded in some kind of meta-timeline, accellerating almost surely toward a failure point. This is the best explanation I've heard of how the timey-ness of this spacetime cataclysm works. *remembers for future use* Back at the beginning of the series, I remember trying to argue with someone that the crack in Amy's wall could have been caused by a disaster in the future and did a very bad job of explaining how that would work.
Um, that kind of leaves Sinister Voiceover Man out in the cold though. I still don't know what he is. I'm a bit annoyed with the implications of sinister voiceover man--I don't want there to be some higher force we haven't heard of yet manipulating all this. I hope it's 1)the TARDIS 2)the Doctor 3)just a garbled echo of Prisoner Zero's original warning.
Two bits of spec from elsewhere that might be pertinent to what you're thinking: 1) All those security features designed to keep the Doctor in would also basically make the Pandorica a perfect spacetime cataclysm bomb shelter--thus preserving him while the universe died around him. 2) It's possible the rock wall River found when she finally got the doors open is part of Stonehenge. Perhaps the TARDIS fought its way back there (though in 2010, since we know that's when this has to happen) and the proximity of the explosion puts cracks in the Pandorica. Basically, the TARDIS sacrificed herself to break the Doctor out. Think I prefer the "Doctor takes the long route and winds up in the museum" theory, though, especially because it puts a new spin on River's "two things always bound to turn up in a museum . . ." bit.
To tell you all the truth, I will be glad with ANY resolution that doesn't have the Doctor magically free himself from the Pandorica in oh, a day or something. Amen to that.
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Date: 2010-06-22 04:19 pm (UTC)On the other hand, the whole museum there could be some kind of MindScape of the Doctor. That would bum me out; I want it to be real.
I am of two opinions on this. On the one hand, dream/mindscape type things are generally lame cop-outs. On the other hand, the entirety of Amy's Choice was a mindscape of the Doctor, and that's my favorite episode of the series. I think it all hinges on how well it's done and whether it gives genuine insight and growth into characters or is just an easy out for the writer.
There is some kind of way that being trapped in the box for thousands of years doesn't make the Doctor wither and die.
I would assume it's some kind of stasis chamber. I mean, keeping your captive in suspended animation and thus unable to think is a pretty good way to keep them from getting out.
This is where it's useful to think in five dimensions instead of the usual four. I believe, to understand how "every moment" could blow up and there is still some sort of "time" through which you can escape, you have to think of each moment having its own trajectory as embedded in some kind of meta-timeline, accellerating almost surely toward a failure point.
This is the best explanation I've heard of how the timey-ness of this spacetime cataclysm works. *remembers for future use* Back at the beginning of the series, I remember trying to argue with someone that the crack in Amy's wall could have been caused by a disaster in the future and did a very bad job of explaining how that would work.
Um, that kind of leaves Sinister Voiceover Man out in the cold though. I still don't know what he is.
I'm a bit annoyed with the implications of sinister voiceover man--I don't want there to be some higher force we haven't heard of yet manipulating all this. I hope it's 1)the TARDIS 2)the Doctor 3)just a garbled echo of Prisoner Zero's original warning.
Two bits of spec from elsewhere that might be pertinent to what you're thinking:
1) All those security features designed to keep the Doctor in would also basically make the Pandorica a perfect spacetime cataclysm bomb shelter--thus preserving him while the universe died around him.
2) It's possible the rock wall River found when she finally got the doors open is part of Stonehenge. Perhaps the TARDIS fought its way back there (though in 2010, since we know that's when this has to happen) and the proximity of the explosion puts cracks in the Pandorica. Basically, the TARDIS sacrificed herself to break the Doctor out. Think I prefer the "Doctor takes the long route and winds up in the museum" theory, though, especially because it puts a new spin on River's "two things always bound to turn up in a museum . . ." bit.
To tell you all the truth, I will be glad with ANY resolution that doesn't have the Doctor magically free himself from the Pandorica in oh, a day or something.
Amen to that.