Heaven Sent

[eve11]

Just some disjointed thoughts



This one reminds me of kind of a mix of two different Big Finish adventures. The first is "The Holy Terror" with Six and Peri Frobisher, and the second is "Caerdroia" with Eight, Charley and C'rizz. It has the horrifying constructed personal hell of The Holy Terror but with a different payoff. And it has the puzzle mystery of Caerdroia, with "home" at the center.

It really has this horrible hellish vibe to it. Like a nightmare, inconceivably vast and so, so contained at the end. And the story he tells, and the bird and the diamonds, just wow.

I am wondering how the "Closed Energy Loop" thing works. where exactly he got sent. Inside the dial?

And a quick thought: Wasn't "room 12" what the Eleventh Doctor feared the most in The God Complex? I wonder if there's a link, if he knew that 12 was going to have to face this.

ETA: I could be totally wrong about The God Complex. It's been a while since I saw it.

ETA: Oh, Oh someone just reminded me that "It's me" at the end might actually be "It's Me" e.g., Ashildr who now calls herself "Me". That very well could be. Why would he protect that secret though? Why would that make him run from Gallifrey? Of course, it could just be that the reasons behind those really are never ever ever going to be told.

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[clocketpatch]

I think it was room Eleven, but yeah. Whoa. That was an intense episode if ever I've seen one. And it didn't drag at at despite being nearly an hours of Twelve just monologuing and running back and forth across a castle.

[profrobert.livejournal.com]

If you start to google God Complex Doctor Who, one of the prompt fill-ins is Room 11. So Room 12 here is, I think, just part of the recurring trope of using the Doctor's current number when a number is needed to tip the audience that it's specially referring to that Doctor.

ETA: I don't think The Hybrid is necessarily Me. The Doctor calls her by her name, Ashildr. I'm going to go with a more nutso theory. The Doctor isn't the Hybrid; he makes the Hybrids. He was going to be the Time Lord version of Davros, making an army of Hybrids, except he didn't want the job and ran away. (However, this doesn't really explain why "hybrid" is always spoken of in the singular and doesn't really explain why the Doctor says, "It's me," which really needs to be stretched to mean, "It's me who was going to make the Hybrid.")

[cynthia2015.livejournal.com]

The Doctor was only motivated to keep going by having Clara's "spirit" around.:(

Interesting trivia about 3D computer's.

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

I got that, too - the 12-Room and the fact that 11 had one as well and...bless!!

This whole episode made me jump up and down and squeal! It was so very, very clever! Sad. Amazing. Frightening and intense.

Aside from that, some of the themes (looping, being unaware of the loop, being confronted with the past in subtle ways) reminded me of the stuff that I scribble and I had an odd moment where I wondered (once more) if Moffat is truly on my ceiling reading my fanfic. Then I realized how silly that is and just enjoyed the episode immensely!

The numbering of the rooms and how he wrote them down remind me of a clock AND his language all at once. Wondered if he was writing his full name without realizing it. And I wonder if each number was a regeneration...O_O

*HUGS*

Lady ME being the hybrid...I don't know. I think it is him, himself. I think he was aware in the end that he (the original...always the original template) had been re-uploaded 2 billion times to get there. That he had continued to do this. That he was made what he was by his home and by his home's absence.

Either way...Gallifrey has once more given him no reason to love them. Arrrghhh!!