Doctor Who: The Pandorica Opens

[eve11]

Okay the real question is: How did all of these aliens get time travel so they could end up in 102 AD?

And, the monologue when River was in Amy's room: "Amy. Oh Doctor, why do I let you out?"

So... this is interesting. because a few things: 1) River's obviously met Amy before. And 2) What does River mean by that last bit? Is she the one who releases him from the Pandorica? Earlier on in her time stream? And if that's true then River's a lot better at bluffing and not letting spoilers on. She must know it's the Doctor in the box then, right?

So, River gets blown up, the TARDIS is destroyed, we still haven't seen who the biggest of the big bads is (the evil "Silence will fall" voiceover guy-- wth?), and I have the sinking feeling that the Doctor's going to be imprisoned in the box for like 5000 years until young River releases him and meets him for the very first time. Um, maybe.

And I think Amy isn't dead because she too is a construct. Back to the beginning: "Why did you say six months?" -- is it because she has no idea how much time has passed either? And also there was something in little Amelia's kitchen, lurking around... who or what could it be? Amy? And in Victory of the Daleks Bracewell is all "They made me!" and Amy takes his hand and says, "I understand how you feel. Believe me, I understand." Why or how would she understand that?

Oh man, this is gonna be a hella long week.

Comments

[tripoli.livejournal.com]

Holy crap, dude.

I actually just took "why do I let you out" as a kind of in-joke for herself, like another way of saying "I can't take you anywhere", but under the circumstances, 'out' is certainly an interesting choice of words. I'm not sure how the heck she knows Amy.

I'll be really, really sad, not to mention surprised, if Amy is an Auton construct or whatever. For many reasons, but mostly because I love her and it'd be such a dick way to undermine her character, especially considering how Donna wound up. And if the point of them constructing Amy was so that her entire life was a trap for Eleven and they could lure him wherever they wanted, Roman Britain underneath Stonehenge seems like an odd choice. (Also, if you're going to go to all that trouble, why even bother with the Pandorica? Why not just take him down and shoot him till he stops regenerating?) But the inconsistencies you're talking about all make way more sense if something's up with Amy, but I'd rather it connect her to the big bad rather than just the Pandorica alliance.

Actually, the biggest headspin I had with the whole thing (having only seen it once) was that that whole alliance and all the brilliant species in it completely failed to allow for the possibility that when something goes wrong with the TARDIS, there could be anyone other than the Doctor piloting it. Like, that seems like a huge huge assumption on which to base your whole plan, not to mention the fate of the universe--even if none of them knew of any other pilots, they know he travels with people all the time who might have to fly the thing in a pinch and not necessarily know what they're doing. I dunno, it seems like a good time for an overabundance of caution.

[eve11]

Also, if you're going to go to all that trouble, why even bother with the Pandorica? Why not just take him down and shoot him till he stops regenerating?

On the other hand, if you are working under the assumption that the Doctor will never stop regenerating, then it's a plan that makes sense. Well, either that or put him in some kind of time stasis or something (and who's to say that the Pandorica doesn't have some kind of timey-wimey stasis thing going on inside it?)

Actually, the biggest headspin I had with the whole thing (having only seen it once) was that that whole alliance and all the brilliant species in it completely failed to allow for the possibility that when something goes wrong with the TARDIS, there could be anyone other than the Doctor piloting it.

At the same time though, one wonders if the Sinister Voiceover Man was perhaps playing everyone and planted the idea.

Or, and here's a guess, the Sinister Voiceover Man is the Valeyard (or a variant of the Dream Lord).

[tripoli.livejournal.com]

I'm not familiar with the Valeyard, but a version of the Dream Lord (or at least, some version of the Dotor working against himself) is pretty high up there on my current theories. I mean, after all this, if Davros or whatever rolls out of there for the five hundredth time, how could it not be a letdown. And narratively, I think it's been built up to pretty well that the Doctor is his own worst enemy.

[eve11]

In the original series, the Valeyard is a future incarnation of the Doctor, but twisted into an incarnation of all of his evil and dark inclinations. He puts the Sixth Doctor on trial (in the Trial of a Time Lord) in an attempt to steal the rest of the Doctor's regenerations for himself.

There is also a rather brillant Big Finish Doctor Who Unbound AU story (He Jests at Scars) with the Valeyard and Mel Bush. But if it is the Valeyard, I will be disappointed if they don't use the original actor though :(